Tonight in Seattle:  

Girl Talk and a remix manifesto

Rip: A Remix Manifesto is a new-ish documentary film about the legality of remixes and mashups and features Gregg Gillis of Girl Talk as the poster child for open source licensing. Heading to Girl Talk's second Seattle show later tonight? Be an informed wild child and get a handle on the remix/mashup debate.  There's some pretty good Girl Talk show footage, too.

Although the narrator has a strident tone at times, the documentary brings forward valuable insights and varying viewpoints on reuse and appropriation. Reuse and appropriation are not new nor the exclusive domain of music: Walt Disney appropriated the Buster Keaton character Steamboat Bill when creating his first Mickey Mouse cartoon Steamboat Willie.  In  contemporary art, Yasumasa Morimura reinvents iconic art paintings and photographic images using subtle modification and not so subtle self-portrait elements.

Also appearing in the Rip documentary is one of my favorite authors and the technology culturist Cory Doctorow (Boing Boing). Doctorow is a strong supporter of creative commons licensing and many of his published books and short stories are freely available in various e-reader libraries.

Wherever you stand on the remix/mashup question, the documentary Rip: A Remix Manifesto is an informative piece of film.  Have fun, enjoy the music, dance 'til your shirt sticks to your back and your feet are peanut butter. It's fun, it's crazy, it's a good time, no question.  But while doing so, be mindful of original sources, pay attention to how they are adapted and modified, and think about at the point where a remix or mashup become a new piece of work.  There's no easy answer.

Rip is currently available on Netflix to watch instantly, on iTunes, and as a pay-what-you-want download from Open Source Cinema.

I wrote a big comment about this issue on ChrisB's Girl Talk interview, but it never got posted because the spam server was down for like 3 days and I gave up trying.
That was one of the issues I wish Chris had asked Gillis about-how the hell do you get away with this?
Don't get me wrong, I'm actually a fan of Girl Talk and I can appreciate the creativity that goes into what he does (especially after reading ChrisB's interview and getting some insight into how much work goes into those mash-ups). However, when that album came out last summer and was given away for free on his website, I remember thinking "well I better get it now, because I can't see this lasting very long, especially if it starts to get popular."
Then it did get popular, he started playing pretty big festival shows, and I waited for some lawsuit that he couldn't afford to battle against, but so far it hasn't come. I wonder if it's a matter of artists not wanted to hurt their status in the eyes of public opinion? Who knows.

Hopefully I get around to seeing this documentary, because it sounds pretty interesting.
John - The reason why I didn't ask Gillis about the copyright issue when I had him on the phone is because I don't think it's an issue anymore (or even was at the time). He's cited fair use laws as the reason for why what he does is legal. With Danger Mouse getting slapped with lawsuits immediately after putting out The Grey Album and Girl Talk being able to put out not just Feed the Animals but Night Ripper as well without being sued, not to mention major labels haven't exactly been shy about protecting their intellectual property through courts with lawsuits against file-sharers, I thought the issue has been settled.

I knew about the doc Jeanine mentioned (you can also watch it on Hulu for free, I believe) but intentionally avoided watching it because I didn't want to ask about the copyright laws because he's been asked that 1000 times and answered that 1000 times. I do want to see it now.

Chris, I figured maybe that was why you didn't ask him that-because I'm sure he gets that in every other interview.
I guess I'm not completely familiar with how these laws work (which I suppose is where this doc comes in). I was under the impression that he could give away his work but not make money from it without having to pay royalties to the artists used, which in his case would cost a LOT of money. I always kind of thought it all went back to Paul's Boutique as the changing point for sampling in music and being able to use other people's music in your own music. I could be wrong though, I was only a kid when that album came out.
I did like that interview too Chris-it gave good insight into just how much of a Girl Talk show is predetermined and how much is done on the spot.

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